Comments on: We Need A More Manly Church

By: waltzingaustralia

waltzingaustralia — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:13:31 +0000

Actually, there are a few girls out here who’d pick Tom Clancy over Danielle Steele, and Braveheart over Sleepless in Seattle (in fact, I saw Braveheart five times and still haven’t seen Sleepless). I don’t think the music has to get rough to bring about change, but we definitely need to equip men to be men. Sure, there was a need to explain that being the head of the household didn’t mean a woman was your slave, but it also doesn’t mean that the man becomes a woman.

Of course, I think this is not something peculiar to the church. Feminists have basically brought society to a place where masculinity is viewed almost as an aberration, while typically female behavior is promoted as being the norm. (As in areas where schools have banned recess, because it favors male activities, and boys with nowhere to burn off energy get put on Ritalin.)

So it doesn’t have to be Ted Nugent (as much as I love the man’s views on politics and Second Amendment rights), because loud does not equal masculine, but the church definitely needs to show men what it’s like to be men, in a world where these things are increasingly confused — and where a man can get dressed down for opening a door for the wrong woman. So I think it’s not just about making them more manly, it’s about making them more secure in that, once they know what it looks like.

By: ReformationUnderway » Emasculated Worship

ReformationUnderway » Emasculated Worship — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:11:50 +0000

[...] what is not a new post, but new to me, Florida pastor Chris Elrod’s take on the current state of much of church worship is on target. I can’t completely buy his [...]

By: cathi

cathi — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:52:21 +0000

as a female respondent to this post…I completely agree. I’ve seen how the doily pervasive entry-ways and floral patterned couches create an covert barrier to the men seeking the overcoming, warrior, awesome and fear-inducing King…if we don’t give the men of this generation the outlet for their God-Given assertion, there are many other religions out there that capitalize on this desire [to the detriment of other's lives].
Well said, fellow blogger, well said.

By: Cary

Cary — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:42:14 +0000

I agree that there has been a feminizing of the church. I do not agree that it needs to become more “manly” in an American male sort of way as your post seems to suggest. The songs need to be about a holy God, who is neither male nor female, but “A Mighty Fortress is our God, a bulwark never faileth.” And “Crown Him with many crowns, the lamb upon the throne.” In other words, the problem is not how sissified the music is, but who the music is about. That is not “manning up,” that is praising and worshiping the Creator rather than the Creature.

By the way, I refuse to sing “In the Garden,” even though its an old-time hymn. Now that is a true sissy song that makes God sound like a fairy princess meeting me in a pretty garden with lots of lily pads in a trickling pond and speaks to me in a soft, soothing, New Age voice.

By: Gord

Gord — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:54:05 +0000

“If the church is going to be relevant in the coming generations we’ve got to get back to reaching men…and helping them become Godly husbands and fathers.”

I like this quote. It seems from my experience that men’s ministry is downplayed in churches. Sure, the pastors verbalize their support but hardly ever show up at events to support the ministry or take part in the men’s leadership committees. I see the children’s ministry, the youth ministry, and women’s ministries all being promoted above men’s ministry. Doesn’t anyone really see the need here? Yes, I agree that the church needs to begin reaching men once again. I know, as a man, I need it. Great post! God Bless you.

Be sure to visit my blog at http://www.anonymousdiscipleship.blogspot.com
Thank-you

By: SLW

SLW — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:18:18 +0000

Thanks bro for the perspective. I’ll have to cull our repertoire. If you think this way, doubtless many others do to.

By: Major Mike's Musings

Major Mike's Musings — Sun, 08 Apr 2007 10:09:25 +0000

More on Manly Church

Relevant to yesterdays post, I found a post by Chris Elrod regarding music in the church. Hes got a point about the feminization of the church. Here are a few concluding paragraphs from his blog on the subject. You can read the whole article her…

By: Johnny and Kate Brooks

Johnny and Kate Brooks — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:37:01 +0000

I agree with you Chris, praise and worship music sucks. We need some Guns N Roses in our churches.

By: Dave Anderson

Dave Anderson — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:35:37 +0000

Spot on man. Makes me think we have to evaluate some of our songs more carefully. Rock On!

By: rickwomack

rickwomack — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:01:03 +0000

hey man, dead on target with this…
great post