Comments on: A Dark Day For The SBC And A Candid Conversation With Ed Stetzer http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/ Daily snapshots from a planter, pastor and shepherd. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:42:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Babylon's Dread http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1113 Babylon's Dread Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:04:46 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1113 Upon further review.... He already know what I just said... but wow.. I could give your volumes. Upon further review….

He already know what I just said… but wow.. I could give your volumes.

]]> By: Babylon's Dread http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1112 Babylon's Dread Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:31:37 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1112 As a former SBC member I can go on for days about this... I have not yet watched the videos but one factor in the decline is the fact that the denomination goes out of its way to demonize new groups annually. Smaller circles hold smaller numbers... As a former SBC member I can go on for days about this…

I have not yet watched the videos but one factor in the decline is the fact that the denomination goes out of its way to demonize new groups annually.

Smaller circles hold smaller numbers…

]]> By: Patrick Gillen http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1111 Patrick Gillen Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:04:36 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1111 I agree Debbie. We may be (or act in this case) like a denom... but it was definitely not the intention when they started. (there I go using my SEBTS Baptist History class!) Even if there's not much power up top, there are those that definitely desire it. I heard someone say the other day that the autonomy of the local church was the best and worst part of the SBC. Why can't we cooperate on some things and stay out of each others hair in others? :) I agree Debbie. We may be (or act in this case) like a denom… but it was definitely not the intention when they started. (there I go using my SEBTS Baptist History class!)
Even if there’s not much power up top, there are those that definitely desire it. I heard someone say the other day that the autonomy of the local church was the best and worst part of the SBC. Why can’t we cooperate on some things and stay out of each others hair in others? :)

]]> By: travis spencer http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1110 travis spencer Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:17:54 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1110 i think some of this got cut at the end...hmmm... i think some of this got cut at the end…hmmm…

]]> By: Debbie Kaufman http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1108 Debbie Kaufman Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:16:11 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1108 Patrick: It used to not be top down(well, I have questions on that), let's say it shouldn't be top down, but I believe it is top down and that we are indeed a denomination. I was watching Ed and thinking yes, yes, yes, and yes. I agreed with his observations on everything. Now will there be those who listen? We'll see. Patrick: It used to not be top down(well, I have questions on that), let’s say it shouldn’t be top down, but I believe it is top down and that we are indeed a denomination.

I was watching Ed and thinking yes, yes, yes, and yes. I agreed with his observations on everything. Now will there be those who listen? We’ll see.

]]> By: Louie Marsh http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1097 Louie Marsh Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:13:31 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1097 Thanks for putting this up Chris. I'm not a Southern Baptist, but believe much of this applies to all of us who are trying to make a difference for Christ out here. Keep up the good work - all this conviction hurts but IT'S WHAT I NEED!! - Louie Thanks for putting this up Chris. I’m not a Southern Baptist, but believe much of this applies to all of us who are trying to make a difference for Christ out here.

Keep up the good work - all this conviction hurts but IT’S WHAT I NEED!!

- Louie

]]> By: Patrick Gillen http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1095 Patrick Gillen Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:08:51 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1095 That is not to include Ed as one of the bad guys in any way. (if there are any) That is not to include Ed as one of the bad guys in any way. (if there are any)

]]> By: Patrick Gillen http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/a-dark-day-for-the-sbc-and-a-candid-conversation-with-ed-stetzer/#comment-1094 Patrick Gillen Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:56:38 +0000 http://pastorelrod.wordpress.com/?p=672#comment-1094 And I remember the days when you said Ed was a broken record... :) It is a sad day for us in the SBC, but I think it's been coming for a while. One difference I make from Ed, we are 'not' a denomination - but a convention. It's not a top-down scenario... and I think that is one of the reasons we've struggled. The conservative resurgence helped a ton theologically, but many of those guys strengthened their grip in hopes of controlling churches within the convention - instead of getting what we're about and partnering together for missions and God's glory. Thanks for sharing this Chris! Wish I was down there with you! And I remember the days when you said Ed was a broken record… :)
It is a sad day for us in the SBC, but I think it’s been coming for a while. One difference I make from Ed, we are ‘not’ a denomination - but a convention. It’s not a top-down scenario… and I think that is one of the reasons we’ve struggled. The conservative resurgence helped a ton theologically, but many of those guys strengthened their grip in hopes of controlling churches within the convention - instead of getting what we’re about and partnering together for missions and God’s glory.

Thanks for sharing this Chris! Wish I was down there with you!

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