Great times of fellowship with people from various backgrounds and it was wonderful to see the young people involved. The above list of points i
was what I was thinking i would be careful about the urban rural thing. god is moving in the urban definitely and also in the rural.

I was very impressed by Rick Warren who, has not been a favorite of mine. After seeing him use the word of God and just love and care for Church planters i could never again hear a negative word about that guy without standing up for him . Keller was great also. i love how he defined the definition about self-salvation. we need to repent for our sin and goodness also was great.

I went to the conference for numerous reason besides church planting and God touched me more deeply in my hotel room in the Word of God than most of the time at the conference. I want to still go again because it gives me burden and causes me to look inwardly.

If we are not praying or even talking about the Word of God at church planting conferences do we really expect God to even show up at all during the time. I am sure God did show up is sessions and places i was not at most of the time.

just a few thoughts, I do not mean to sound critical, old fashioned because i am not I am a 34 year old guy who is on fire on the mission-field here in America , who is no a bible thumping fighting fundi. I just can’t believe it, I went to this church that has been planted for about a year in my area for about 5 months, they are in the services turning in the book of desire to page…. Waiting for the pastor to correct himself he didn’t he began to speak about the journey of desire a new book. No bible reference the whole time just this book. then i go cheerfully to a church a church planting conference passionately looking for the presence of God and see this is a systemic problem that is not just in this particular new church plant it is wide spread in the church planting movement, the use of non-participatory music that does not lead into preparing heart to hear the Words of God, stories, books, movies, tv themes, soap operas, and every thing but the Word of Almighty God who is the head of the churches we are planting. I do not mean to hurt anyone or not be kind at all I am more broken hearted than anything else. Thanks for letting me just talk.

In His grace Forever,
Teddy
Church planter
“Being a missionary everywhere, to everyone”

Thanks for the comment on my blog after I ranted a bit! Now that I read my comment above, I wince a bit at my words. Thanks for your grace!

The apostles were often wary of revival (Cornelius, Samaria, Antioch, ect) so the
Holy Spirit had to set them straight.

I trust the Holy Spirit will give you wisdom and insight.

Number 5 though is WAY off. What a slap in the face to rural pastors! Whoever said it needs to read your point #8. I’ll hazard a guess that whoever said it simply doesn’t understand the rural culture or thinks that urban ministry is the only “true” way to do ministry. I have pastored in rural settings for five years, and I now live and minister in an urban setting (3 years now). I can say with full confidence that it is just as important to be a student of culture in a rural setting as it is in an urban setting, and that effective rural ministry demands that the pastor care about rural culture just as much as effective urban ministry.

In fact, having seen both sides, I think that it is MORE important to be a student of culture in a rural setting, but I won’t try to argue that here…. maybe on my own blog.

Word is getting out that revival is breaking out.

Is that true? Have you heard of Ignition Church, Chris?

You don’t know me but I have been following your blog and Twitter sites for a little while. I am in the process of planting in the Charleston, SC area and appreciate your insight for many reasons. I came from pastoring a rural SBC church where I have never been so frustrated at the “stiff necks” and closed minds of so many people. You are so very correct when you said “we are wasting time”.